Raceland “shorty” headers vs eBay longtube headers for an e30 BMW 24v swap

Another problem I inherited with my ’91 318i e30 is that exhaust wasn’t finished when the M50 was swapped in. The previous owner purchased Raceland “shorty” headers intended for an e36 325i, 328i, or M3 but the recommend headers for this swap are the longtube SuperSprint header clones commonly available on eBay. Neither set of headers is what I would call a direct fit,  but the longtubes are much closer to fitting correctly. Because the Raceland shorties want to violate the control arm bushings, I decided to buy a new set of eBay longtubes for the grand total of $110 shipped to my door from the seller “SpeedDaddy”; below is a quick comparison.

First, the eBay headers I purchased have “1.75” outlets / collectors according to the auction listing. There is another version that has “2.00” inch outlets and costs a little extra. I measured 2″ on one collector and 1.75″ on the other where it necks down. My plans involve welding on a V-band so that 1.75″ section will get cut off anyway!

e36 Raceland headers mounted on an M50 in an e30 engine bay

e36 Raceland headers mounted on an M50 in an e30 engine bay

The Racelands fit on the car but clearly will not clear the lower control arm bushings. The treehouse racing “eyeball” control arm lollipops/bushings might clear, but they’re bloody expensive and I’m afraid they might ride harshly.

e36 Raceland header e30 clearance issues close-up

e36 Raceland header e30 clearance issues close-up

And one from the bottom

Raceland header e30 fitment from the bottom

Raceland header e30 fitment from the bottom

It’s hard to tell what’s going on in that picture because things are so crowded, but hopefully it gives some idea about how the Racelands fit. I was going to modify them to fit, but I thought it would be easier just to buy another set of eBay headers. So here they are!

 

"SpeedDaddy" e36 longtube headers

“SpeedDaddy” e36 longtube headers

As mentioned above, you can see that the end of the righthand header necks down. At the end, the header on the right measures 1.75″ in diameter whereas the lefthand header measures a 2″ diameter. Odd. Other than that, they certainly look nice.

Racelands on top, longtubes on the bottom

Racelands on top, longtubes on the bottom

Here are both sets of headers next to each other. I think these pictures speak for themselves – the Racelands are clearly better quality. Another telling sign is that the longtubes are the lighter set of headers, despite appearing much larger; the stainless steel used in the longtubes is much thinner!

Longtubes on top, Racelands at bottom

Longtubes on top, Racelands at bottom

And here’s a different angle. Note the O2 sensor placement differs.

Racelands on top, long tubes on bottom

Racelands on top, long tubes on bottom

Speaking of quality, look at how much thicker the Raceland flanges are! That and I’m pretty sure the eBay header flanges are not flat.

Longtubes in the engine bay

Longtubes in the engine bay

After a very long fight, I finally fit the longtubes to the M50. Where the racelands pop on and off quite painlessly, the longtubes require some serious fiddling to squeeze into place – from the bottom.  The one header also needed some “adjustment” with a hammer to clear the passenger side floor. However, that process wasn’t too bad and the O2 sensor DID mount into place although it is a tight fit.

Longtube fitment from the bottom

Longtube fitment from the bottom

Finally, here’s the proof that the longtubes do indeed fit. Next up, V-bands and header back exhaust!

  • RafcioPafcio

    Hi

    What do you think about Raceland long-tube headers (those for e36 m3), would they fit the swapped e30?

    • RJ

      From what I understand, the Raceland long-tubes require some modification fit swapped e30s. While the top section appears to be the same as my eBay longtubes (which are Super Spring replicas, just like the Racelands), the bottom part of the has a different bend. I’ve been told they need to be cut & welded to clear the control arm bushing & firewall. You will probably need to fabricate some part of the exhaust anyway so this might not be as big of a deal as it sounds and the Racelands are certainly better quality than the generic eBay headers. Alternatively, they may fit if you run the Treehouse Racing control arm bushings which are smaller in diameter, but a couple hundred dollars. Good luck, I can tell you that bolting headers up to a swapped e30 with the engine in place is a royal pain.